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Which way for August DJIA?
Up!
28%
 28%  [ 2 ]
Down!
42%
 42%  [ 3 ]
Flat as a board! Just put it under the mattress!
28%
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DKnightSr
PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:19 am Post subject: Chicken Little Report Reply with quote

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Today is August 1st, "BlackOut" day here at e-investing. Only today may we bask in our own glory of our numbers....undetected by others.

Or....if you're like me....Cry in your beer quietly. Seems I reversed my "all shorts" portfolio of SDS and EFU just in time to bite the big one today on DOW Chemical. Embarassed

Hope you all fared better than I. Looks like August, rather than being the normal quiet month, may have some opportunities. It's just...

WHICH WAY ARE THEY?!! Wink

How 'bout it Reaper Man, Mr Frusnak, Dave.....any input? Idea Razz

EDIT: OOPS! Forgot the returns show on the signature block. Ah well....I already told you I goofed! Rolling Eyes
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Aug. will be better than july.
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Im Not Warren Buffett
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July was pretty good to me. I had been buying Primus common stock from about $4 down during June, and in mid-July I sold everything else and bought Primus notes around $7.70 at a 23% yield.

They report earnings on Wednesday, and I have a pretty good amount of info on the company I can forward to you if you'd like.
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Im Not Warren Buffett wrote:
July was pretty good to me. I had been buying Primus common stock from about $4 down during June, and in mid-July I sold everything else and bought Primus notes around $7.70 at a 23% yield.

They report earnings on Wednesday, and I have a pretty good amount of info on the company I can forward to you if you'd like.


Just so ya know...da low ainna in fer PRS yet and in da end da debt holders "cud be" aaaall dat's left. Da next wave down in da finashulls will bring alotta trooth out since da govmint can't save everybudy and Hank Paulson's old "crook factory" GS is gonna git spalunked BIGTIME, you know ole Hank gits preferunshull treatmunt from da govmint Wink ....plus da govy is gonna hasta decide whether ta rexscue F er GM and package it up all nice n neat so one o'dem can be sold to either the Saudis....no wait, the Saudi's git Citigroup. Laughing I guess we'ze gonna hasta sell F er GM ta either da Chinese, da Rooskies, er a "conglomerate" of idiots who bees willing ta pay too much disguised as a Hedge Fund. Laughing In da meantime....remain CALM...but pleez! Don't chort da beeeyotch! Rolling Eyes Arrow Laughing Arrow Shocked Arrow Razz
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Hm... two things:

You actually like CALM, or at least don't dislike it enough to short it?

I don't think you'd know this because you disavow fundamentals, but for Primus common to get wiped out, corporate defaults on investment grade debt would need to be several times as high as they've ever been. Do you really think things will get that bad?
Then along those lines... you always have a tentative "da number" for a bottom... so where does that stand right now?
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Sorry to hear about your fiscal misfortunes! Welcome back DrKnightSr it's been way too long since you posted. I see you've been visiting. Wink
I think the Dow will have a slight upward move. Not too radical just kinda like a stair stepping motion. Then wait til the elections...
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Im Not Warren Buffett wrote:
Hm... two things:

You actually like CALM, or at least don't dislike it enough to short it?

I don't think you'd know this because you disavow fundamentals, but for Primus common to get wiped out, corporate defaults on investment grade debt would need to be several times as high as they've ever been. Do you really think things will get that bad?
Then along those lines... you always have a tentative "da number" for a bottom... so where does that stand right now?


CALM down Bunkie....awhilst ago when da POS wuz at like $30 yu wuz pumpin da beeeyotch as a chort anna I sed bewerst of a rally to a DUBLE DA TOP....anna dat be eggszackly what happund. "Eggs"zackly...getit? Laughing Ooooh mayun, I'm one funny moda foka...no? Laughing Uhhn...never mind. PRS will ebentually breakded balow $2 dallahs (slightly?) based on what it jist dunn did durin dis last salamie. Me no shivagits bout what's gotta happun er sposed ta happun from a funnymental pov. Rolling Eyes Funnymentals git ya kilt! Remember? Shocked
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calm looks pretty good to me, i wouldn't be trying to short it anytime soon. but, i don't short stocks anyway. Smile plus it's getting to be that time of year again, oil going back down...
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Grimreaper wrote:
Im Not Warren Buffett wrote:
Hm... two things:

You actually like CALM, or at least don't dislike it enough to short it?

I don't think you'd know this because you disavow fundamentals, but for Primus common to get wiped out, corporate defaults on investment grade debt would need to be several times as high as they've ever been. Do you really think things will get that bad?
Then along those lines... you always have a tentative "da number" for a bottom... so where does that stand right now?


CALM down Bunkie....awhilst ago when da POS wuz at like $30 yu wuz pumpin da beeeyotch as a chort anna I sed bewerst of a rally to a DUBLE DA TOP....anna dat be eggszackly what happund. "Eggs"zackly...getit? Laughing Ooooh mayun, I'm one funny moda foka...no? Laughing Uhhn...never mind. PRS will ebentually breakded balow $2 dallahs (slightly?) based on what it jist dunn did durin dis last salamie. Me no shivagits bout what's gotta happun er sposed ta happun from a funnymental pov. Rolling Eyes Funnymentals git ya kilt! Remember? Shocked


Right right, I keep forgetting that. Something about the comfort a nice loss provision spreadsheet gives me when the Mrs. is away keeps bringing me back to da funnys... and I donna mean da caw-micks.

But Grim, you're a funny guy. Honestly, if da voodoo ever fails you, you should create some kind of edgy financial TV mocking CNBC.
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Thanks for all the input folks! I think I'll keep "The Real Green" safely in the T-Bills (but if the interest goes any lower it will be a minus! Wink ) Meantime, I'm long in e-investing....win (that's only happened once! Smile ), lose (that's happened alot! Wink ) or draw.

They never did tell me though....draw what!? Smile

Ah yes....draw the escalating line across the chart. (I hope! LOL)

Good luck all! Keep your powder dry, and your finger on the trigger! This Montanan has figured out...there's bears out there! Laughing And I do believe they're grizzlies.
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I voted down, so it should go up. Wink lmao
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Honestly, I voted with you Vetelmo. There's just too much out there that hasn't shaken through the pipeline, and with the economy faltering....one banana peel and we all take a dive.

Just read that we're into the next level of mortgages for defaults (one above sub-prime). Several months ago I read an article from a fellow (don't remember the author) that said it's like a pyramid. The higher up the level of quality you go, the fewer the loans, and thus you burn through them faster. Not liking what I'm reading now.

Then we have GM giving away the farm, with DOW staggering around like a drunken sailor, and MSFT that even the owner walked away from (the end result of that has not shaken out either).

Kroger's PE is embarrasing, but WallyWorld continues to crank. Only DIS is doing what I expected. It usually works like a barometer. When folks are down and out, they "escape" to movies. It's happened time after time historically. Theme parks may drop, but you only need one "Lion King" to equal a whole bunch of theme parks. Will be looking to see what they have in the hopper for "good family movie".

So yeah....I'm still holding on the sidelines. I figure 1150-1200 S&P....and it might be time to get froggy. Meantime, I like my Lily Pad just fine Wink
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