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| Grimreaper |
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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I made no personal attacks toward anyone at this site, only Cramer, sorry if you felt I was attacking you or anyone else here, but as far as my personal attacks on Cramer I feel I have been consistant in attacking him all along, so I don't understand why you are saying my attacks have just started if you wish to run your own test that's fine, I think you outlined such a test which didn't get much of a response, probably because it was too confusing to understand, I'm doing my own simple test based on some actual calls made by Cramer, just to see how he does over time, my test will in all likelihood be more realistic and in the end confirm my opinion of Cramer when it is complete, it appears that others are following along with this test so it must be valid, if nothing else it should show you what happens when you rely on others to make your investment decisions for you, now you can say that Cramer tells you to make your own decisions, but the fact is that whenever he gives an opinion on a stock there is an immediate reaction in after hours trading, so da fax is da fax, plus it will also be interesting to see if my purdickshun that Cramer will lose his show will come true, that's a bold thing to say, but over time I can see it coming, that's how poorly I expect him to do over time, and of course if he does poorly with his picks, so will everyone who listens to his every word  |
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| cwing |
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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Grim didn't attack anyone but JC.. I've read his post and all of em attack cramer.. This test might be in favor for grim. Just b/c JC says buy and sell does not mean he is buying or selling. He probably bought before he said buy and he probably sold before he said sell. I just hope you guys just don't get mad at eachother.. And this is just a test just dont get personally attached to JC b/c he is right/wrong or whatever..  |
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| freeye |
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:29 am Post subject: Grimreaper Concedes by Not Offering Legitimate Arguements. |
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Thanks for admitting that you have been personally attacking jim cramer all along.
"those of you that have taken part on a debate team know the best sign
you can get from your opponent short of a conceding defeat is when the
opposition resorts to personal attacks and name calling."
you see grimreaper... everytime you stoop to a personal attack or name calling of jim cramer you are admitting that you have no legitimate arguements to offer, otherwise you would offer them and have no need for personal attacks.
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| Grimreaper |
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:53 am Post subject: |
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No arguments yet, because I haven't proven my point yet I have the right to attack Cramer if I want to, he invites being attacked and even likes being attacked, I bet he would love to come over heeeya to this fine establisment and tussle witme, and he's invitied but he won't come over, so he sends you, if you want to debate me then answer this question, now that you made 10% on TIBX, lost 15%, and now are even again off Cramer's call, watcha gonna do?! dat's what I'm all about, know what I'm tawkin bout?  |
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| freeye |
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:38 am Post subject: Grimreaper Proving a Point No One Takes Issue With |
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grimreaper?!
if the point you are proving with your test is...
"to buy when jim cramer says to buy and then wait until jim cramer tells
you to sell may be unprofitable"
i agree with you on that point! no one here is disputing that issue.
Q. grimreaper what point is there in proving something that no one is
disputing?
freeye
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| freeye |
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:03 am Post subject: Name Calling is Verbal Abuse |
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cwing
name calling is verbal abuse.
grimreaper engaged in name calling of the father who came on jim cramer's show to talk about his son and he also engaged in name calling of the fathers' son.
by using name calling grimreaper hopes to verbally abuse others and inhibit real debate.
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| Grimreaper |
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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What's the reason for the test? I already explained that to you, and here's another hint, it's not one call, it's a series of buy/sell calls over time, you can't tell me you aren't interested in finding out how Jimbo does over time, are ya? and my test is simple, your test was as confusing as trying to figure out just what your big infatuation with Cramer is all about, do you think he is handsome? and I didn't attack the who called in about his son who quadrupled his money by listening to Cramer since the show started, I was just exposing the guy for the liar he was, you have a list of Cramer's picks I'm sure, what are the chances somebody quadrupled their $$$ on his picks since Mad Money started? zero! I'm sure you'll agree with that, if I was Cramer you know what I would have told that clown when he said his son was doin great but he was getting beat up? I'd tell him to let his son handle the picks and you go play video games, but dats jis me!  |
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| Benjamin |
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Grim may attack JC and his teachings and Freeye can defend or retort with anything he likes. As long as it doesn't come down to personal attacka I think the debate really adds a lot to the board. For that I thank you both.
All I have to say guys is battle it out on the floor in the meantime. May the person showing a the big % (LEGITIMATELY) win. (I'll be watching for anomalies)  |
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| Grimreaper |
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:20 am Post subject: |
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I think the Cramer boards are the most fun at this site! I think Cramer is part of the current stock bubble just as the gurus coming out with the "how to buy RE" seminars in every region in da country are part of the RE frenzy, yes Mr EIAdministrator, in a truly free forum Freeye should have the right to be protective of the hucksters, I should have a right to try and prove to everyone why it is better to be cautious, I'll even give Cramer the benefit of the doubt, I think GOOG may just see 350 someday, but I think people will lose $$$ getting there if they listen to Cramer, let's find out, shall we?  |
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| jumbojack |
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Grimreaper |
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:44 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the link! as soon as I'm finished with Freeye I know where I'm goin to pick my next fight!  |
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| Grimreaper |
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:16 am Post subject: |
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Cramer was just last week touting the mortgage lenders and the homebuilders, we are already starting to see some signs of things to come with one of his favorites, CFC, he also likes NLY, and worse yet he likes MXT, a sub prime lender which should really get whacked, NEW not lookin to good either, I wonder if Cramer will change his mind being that CFC is still falling off the bad news that came out after he said buy, I won't hold him to this call, just pointing out that Cramer's funnymental logic is telling him that crude prices, home and land prices, technology prices, and high risk lenders are all gonna rise from here as far as the stock prices go, I wonder what he'll throw in next!  |
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| cwing |
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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Grim u better check out this wednesday JC is going to have a 90 minute special...I'll be sure to check in...He is getting less anonying by the minute...or maybe my volume was down lower  |
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| cwing |
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:07 am Post subject: |
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I missed it last night to busy eating wings and drinking beers. And I passed out before the last rerun of the show  |
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| MrInvestor |
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Where is Freeye? Did he get fed up?
I miss the debate...  |
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