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| freeye |
 Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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thanks! for the jim cramer's real money update jumbojack!
my interpretation of what he said... not necessarily in the order that he said it or using the words he used was:
recommendation #1: that if you have a full position to take a little off
the table.
e.g. if you have 35 shares to maybe sell 10 shrs.
recommendation #2: if your looking to build a full position... investors
should wait for it to come in, before adding to the
position.
recommendation #1 is essentially what you were saying jumbojack.
we willl have to defer to the archived show at his website thestreet.com on recommendation #2, if you or someone else can't confirm it for us.
i did also hear him say that his bottom call on the stock was at $135/shr.
my interpretation was this is where he may have sent out the emails to everyone and then later mentioned it on his radio show to the rest of us.
i was a little more puzzled by his urban outfitters, (URBN) talk.
he did say he had sold all of it @ $49.00.shr. and that (URBN) growth rate is 24% and price earnings ratio (PE) is 48, essentially 2 times its growth rate and this is one reason why he sold it.
cramer also said another reason for selling (URBN) was he had too many stock positions to follow.
the confusing part came in late in the show when he said he wouldn't sell all of (URBN).
did you catch that part jumbojack?
if anyone else happened to catch that part of the show please post your interpretation for the rest of us. i'm sure everyone on this forum or reading this forum would appreciate you for doing so. |
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| freeye |
| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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jumbojack:
i'm no expert on any of this. just learning what jim cramer has to offer over the air waves.
the charts i'll have to leave to grimreaper to tell us his intepretation on how to use charts on individual stocks.
i'm trying to remember how jim cramer uses the charts.
maybe someone has or can get access to one of his books and let us know. |
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| jumbojack |
| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:32 am Post subject: |
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lighting round on today's real money show:
nitromed - bear
haliburton - buy
tmr - buy
via.b - buy
jnj - buy
papa johns - buy
if soma or anyone else could give us your analysis on these that'd be great |
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| freeye |
| Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 8:58 am Post subject: |
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here's a few more additions to what jumbojack has just posted on the friday june 17 jim cramer real money radio show.
jim noticed that gold oil and copper are all going up. this is worrisome since we have little inflation.
jim went on to say that all that matters is what the federal reserve does.
be light on financials.
biotech index is up again and (DNA) is best of breed.
mad money = speculative money, not retirement money.
stay away from (FRO) & (GMR) sell them and don't but them. (oil tankers)
jim likes (BMY) over (JNJ) at this moment.
(PPAJ) is a buy!
"if oil doesn't come down soon we will run out of room"
jim cramer made the above statement and i'm not entirely sure what he meant, it may mean the high oil price will hurt the stock market if it doesn't come down.
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| freeye |
| Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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monday june 20th show
jim said
"buy comcast and time warner hand over fist!"
someone by the name of the dolans? may/is trying to take cablevision, (CVC) private and shoots up $5 per share.
jims calling for oil to move between $49-59 bbl going forward. says all the oil analyst are looking for $49 bbl in an informal pole he was envolved in.
buy half position on lennar (home builder?) today and buy more tomorrow if it comes in some.
jim says "buying all at once is arrogant"
note: some posters here at einvesting.com are reporting that it is not uncommon for a run-up to occur on stocks selected on the jim cramer real money radio show... so buying all at once may prove to be particularly treacherous. so a default to buying as the stock comes in may be a prudent course of action after you do your homework on the stock and determine if it may be suitable for your diversified portfolio.
this forum to the best of my knowlege is not affiliated with or controlled by CNBC so anything written here is the opinion or interpretation of the posters and any decision you make should be based on your own independent research and analysis in consultation with other suitable financial professionals.
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| freeye |
| Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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jim cramers monday june 20th show -continued
jim likes haliburton, (HAL) over michael baker (BKR)
jim says sell nextel and move over to comcast or time warner.
sears holdings, (SHLD) much more to come, so stay with it... note jumbojack reported that jim cramer did recommend to sell some of your (SHLD) position... my interpretation is... if you are feeling a little piggish this would apply. see postings at this forum on or after june 16th since he also made other recommendations for those wishing to establish a position in (SHLD).
jim said don't buy (BP) royal dutch peteroleum, (XOM) and other large oils his favorite is (ECA).
duke energy is his favorite utility company.
this is my interpretation of his real money radio show i have no affiliation with cnbc, jim cramer and any decision you may nake should only be made after conducting your own thorough research in consultation with the appropriate professionals of your choosing, this is not a complete run down of the show no attempt for this end was made, accuracy is desired but errors and misquotations are possible if you want to know exactly what was said his audios are archived at his website thestreet.com on the day of the show.
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| Grimreaper |
| Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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Don't forget CPN, he gave it the 2 thumbs up too, so jot down the closing prices on DUK, HAL, and CPN, I have all 3 on me short lists at various stock games I play  also, make note of the fact that Cramer is still bullish on NLY, that's the mortgage company stock he told everyone was the "best of breed", even when it was trading at the high just last week, down 6% today, he had the CEO come on to give us some answers, the CEO told us it pays a 7% dividend which makes it a great stock, he also told us that anyone who bought NLY after it came to market as an IPO got their entire investment back just in special dividend payouts, never mind stock appreciation, after the NLY CEO was through Cramer gave it his blessing, jot down the price that NLY closed at today, you are building yourself a nice tidy little list of calls made by JC, this is good! |
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| freeye |
| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:56 am Post subject: |
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grimreaper: when jim cramer says he likes haliburton, (HAL) or duke energy, (DUK) is his favorite do you think it means the listeners to his show are supposed to run out and buy (HAL) or (DUK)?
annally, (NLY) mortgage wasn't on the radio show we can pick-up discussion on that over at the jim cramer mad money forum.
as of this writing i cannot confirm that calpine, (CPN) was mentioned on the monday june 20th radio show. |
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| Grimreaper |
| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:06 am Post subject: |
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I know for a fact that people at eInvesting run out and put it in their portfolio so they can get the inevitable move that a JC buy call is gonna result in beforeEI recognizes the change! I'm wreckin that's how sum fokes was up 16% on MLNM, when in actuality you would be slightly better than even if you bought JC's call on that pig, can you confirm that for me JJ?  Cramer mentioned CPN on the Mad Money show last night, he also said the selling was over in GOOG, that was the last thing he said before he signed off, but don't watch GOOG, watch YHOO instead, YHOO needs to trade through 37.50 minimum, but it may trade as high as 39.00 again on this rally, not quite sure yet, GOOG's prospects are tied directly to YHOO, that's not me tawkin, that's the anal-ysts! you won't hear Cramer say sell until each is down at least 50% from current levels, did you take advantage of that link I posted over the weekend? if you did you know that nothing has changed about the way he does things, he still thinks he is a hedge fund manager, fokes is gonna get deeeeestroyed, and it will probably start with the fools who bought HAL, DUK, CPN, and any of the o/g stocks based on what he said just yesterday, let's see. |
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| freeye |
| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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hello again grimreaper: if you could clear this question up for me that would be great!
this is the real money forum so lets set the fantasy portfolio issue aside.
Q. when jim cramer says he likes haliburton, (HAL) or duke energy, (DUK) is his favorite do you think it means the listeners to his show are supposed to run out with real united states dollars and buy (HAL) or (DUK)?
thanks so much grimreaper! |
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| Grimreaper |
| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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| To answer your question, Jim Cramer just wants to make you muny! so when he says to buy something on his show he means to buy it, like DUK or HAL, and his viewers are o-fish-ally in at 29.00 and 46.00, and they own CPN at 3.50, we'll use those as referencesand track ole Jimbo, even giving him the benefit of the doubt by a few cents on each, we also have MLNM at 9.30, TIBX at 7.25, SHLD at 135, GOOG at 175, all recent buy and hold calls, we'll see how he does over time, I think each will get cut in 1/2 sometime over the next 3 months. |
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| Grimreaper |
| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:06 am Post subject: |
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Round 2 of selling about to begin in the oils, but if you bought some oils stocks based on JC's outlook well doan chu worry! even if you are down a cool 10% today alone you won't have to worry about him saying sell and creating a real disaster based on what his sell call on today's Mad Money show would do to his credibility my perdickshun is that he won't say sell until you lost 50% of your $$$ as is his standard approach based on what he did with his internut calls at the top in 2000, you know, before da bubble burst  when he does finally say sell it will create the setup for a dead cat bounce! at that point hopefully the sheeple will get on da horn to CNBC, the best thing that could possibly happen for people who follow this clown is to have his show canceled, keep da faith Cramer junkies!  |
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| freeye |
| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:38 am Post subject: |
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grimreaper said: To answer your question, Jim Cramer just wants to make you muny! so when he says to buy something on his show he means to buy it, like DUK or HAL, and his viewers are o-fish-ally in at 29.00 and 46.00, and they own CPN at 3.50, we'll use those as references and track ole Jimbo, even giving him the benefit of the doubt by a few cents on each, we also have MLNM at 9.30, TIBX at 7.25, SHLD at 135, GOOG at 175, all recent buy and hold calls, we'll see how he does over time, I think each will get cut in 1/2 sometime over the next 3 months.
THE JIM CRAMER TEST - RULES NEGOTIATONS
grimreaper: i might agree to follow the (HAL) with you, as a test of jim cramer, if we can negotiate some rules of the test, such as how we will handle each succeeding purchase of, (HAL) etc.
let me explain why.
jim cramer teaches to buy a stock in stages as it comes in... this isn't debateable it is a fact.
he also teaches that after your 1st purchase of a stock your second purchase of a stock should be lower and the third even lower still, usually in equal number of shares, thus lowering your cost basis, with no limit on the number of purchases.
since jim cramer is on the record having said that oil will fluctuate between $49-59 bbl area and it is currently at the top end of the range we have to expect in the future the price to move towards $49-54 bbl. and when it does the price of (HAL) may come in.
for the purposes of the test it will not matter if cramer says to buy above the first purchase price of $46.00/shr. since this would go against the his teachings of buying as the stock comes in.
if jim cramer issues another buy on (HAL) then an equal number of shares will be purchased at the closing price that day. verification of the buys call by cramer must be verifiable through online archived transcripts or online archived media streaming.
since jim cramer is teaching investors to eventually think on their own at anytime the person serving as the investor in the test can choose
to buy additional shares as long as it lowers the cost basis of the (HAL) position, without waiting for a buy call from jim cramer.
close of negotiations on this test will be 5:00 pm est june 27, 2005.
we may extend the negotiation time period as needed.
at this writing i haven't agreed to this test this is just the negotiation of a possible test.
let me know what you think grimreaper! freeye
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| Grimreaper |
| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| My take, JC could have said to wait for DUK or HAL to come in to buy but he didn't, so our crash test dummies now own some DUK and HAL at the forementioned prices, of course we will make an adjustment depending on whether he says buy or sell later on also, take note that the MLNM buyers are now underwater on their original purchase order, but he hasn't said to buy or sell yet, so we'll wait, here's something you may find surprising, on tonight's Mad Money, JC mentioned that he hears that CPN may be the stock Warren Buffett could be interested in, I actually agree! WOW! Cramer already said to buy at 3.50, I'll make it known when I feel the time is right over at the CPN board I started, did you see how SHLD is working its way back up to 157.20? tick tock, tick tock, tick tock |
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| freeye |
| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:31 am Post subject: |
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to grimreaper: so does this mean you are formally agreeing to the binding JIM CRAMER TEST RULES i proposed to you a couple posts back?
i hope so because it may prove to be quite interesting and fun.
freeye |
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