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| Dave Rathbun |
 Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:41 pm Post subject: Big market gain... for no reason |
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| Yeah, I know, the Fed dropped the rates a full 50 basis points. But to what end? The market is way up, at least the DOW. So is there enough boost in the dropping of the discount rate to continue pushing the DOW up even further? |
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| NCSUPAGE |
| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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| I think the markets are currently over-hyped and are too high to do well for long, but I'm not nearly as versed in market history as some members of this site. It seems to me that bad things always happen after we run things up too far and we never know what that breaking-point is. |
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| admin85 |
| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| yeah the market are to high to do well for a long time... i egree with NCSUPAGE... |
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| PaulHugan2K |
| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:07 am Post subject: |
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Then with current behavior in stock exchange we could hope a crysis the next year ?
I heard some specialist talking about 2008 as a year with economic recession (at least in southamerica, but our economy is like an amplifier of what happend in the globe). |
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| DKnightSr |
| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:46 am Post subject: |
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The only thing I can figure to this "Fantasyland" market is that everyone set their 401K's to "Max Market" and have left the switch on. Though they definitely influence the market....so do foreign investors. A slipping dollar really hurts for them....and we all know it has slipped alot! I'm waiting for them to decide "enough is enough" and take their money elsewhere. Should be a real shock for the old DJIA.
QID is looking pretty good right now  |
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| NCSUPAGE |
| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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 14,000!???
What is going on with these crazy people!? |
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| DKnightSr |
| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| NCSUPAGE wrote: | 14,000!???
What is going on with these crazy people!? |
NCSUPAGE- If you figure that one out....be sure and let me know. We'll both make a killing!
I've never seen anything like this.....all the reports showing negative, earnings dropping, credit tightening, and still the party goes on.
I'm on the sidelines until SOMEBODY gets a clue and we get back to semi-reality. I figure another 5% tank oughta be a good start. It's happened before....and I think we're about due to repeat history. |
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| Dave Rathbun |
| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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I'm still waiting ... I was playing the "diamonds" here on the SIM for a while, getting in and out on short daily swings. And long term investments are staying invested. Meaning I'm not cashing out of the market to sit completely on the sidelines. But I'm sitting on a fair chunk of change that is waiting to be invested just because I am wary of plugging money in right now.
If the upward momentum continues for another 2-3 weeks then I will start investing and averaging up (or down) as the market continues to move. The summer doldrums are over, and the fall markets (especially for tech stocks) are often the best. I don't want to be left behind.
But darn it, I'll whine about it the entire way.  I hate investing at the top. |
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| hogieg |
| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:48 pm Post subject: Re: Big market gain... for no reason |
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| Dave Rathbun wrote: | | Yeah, I know, the Fed dropped the rates a full 50 basis points. But to what end? The market is way up, at least the DOW. So is there enough boost in the dropping of the discount rate to continue pushing the DOW up even further? |
this is stupid  |
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| Slim_80 |
| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:44 am Post subject: |
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| I'll take it though. I'm betting a lot of stocks will hit this month. |
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| rykarde |
| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:51 am Post subject: |
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| I could stand to get some big gainers for a little while .. then get out ... or stay .. or I could just play the sim ... |
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| NCSUPAGE |
| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| DKnightSr wrote: | | NCSUPAGE wrote: | 14,000!???
What is going on with these crazy people!? |
NCSUPAGE- If you figure that one out....be sure and let me know. We'll both make a killing!
I've never seen anything like this.....all the reports showing negative, earnings dropping, credit tightening, and still the party goes on.
I'm on the sidelines until SOMEBODY gets a clue and we get back to semi-reality. I figure another 5% tank oughta be a good start. It's happened before....and I think we're about due to repeat history. |
These people are STILL up there? I mean, they've got to be seriously high!
I'm amazed Progress Energy's stock actually went up since CEO had a stroke in London earlier today. I think a lot of it had to do with the news breaking close to the closing bell... |
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| NCSUPAGE |
| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:24 am Post subject: |
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| Well, looks like yesterday they finally decided to deflate some of the values, I just wish they hadn't done it 300+ points at a time - it just makes for a bad day and begins a rough trading week the next week... |
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| efflandt |
| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:21 am Post subject: |
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The press seemed to be parading mostly bearish news Friday that it was the anniversary of Black Monday, and that CAT said that their customers have been telling them they were already in a recession. While CAT's homebuilder customers may be in a recession, I have noticed a lot more Volvo earth movers on construction sites. So maybe they are just losing market share.
Someone from Rio Tinto said they were having trouble getting delivery of mining equipment, ie, a shortage of equipment.
So it may have just been the press trying to stir things up, along with options Friday. More earnings news this week will shed some light on the broader picture. |
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| Im Not Warren Buffett |
| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Listening to CNBC is generally bad for your health. I keep it on mute most of the day unless there is some particularly intersting person coming on, like a CEO of a company I'm looking at or a well-known fund manager (Marty Whitman is great).
Ignore most of what is happening and being said "out there." Plenty of values still exist, particularly in retail. |
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