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| vetelmo |
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| So you wanna bet that the stock drops $8 tomorrow? That what it would have to do, to meet your EXPERT analysis. I'll bet it doesn't, lol. 20k e$'s? |
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| Grimreaper |
| Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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| vetelmo wrote: | | So you wanna bet that the stock drops $8 tomorrow? That what it would have to do, to meet your EXPERT analysis. I'll bet it doesn't, lol. 20k e$'s? |
Yo! I doan continuosly kick yerass cause I make stoopid bets....now do I?  Just call me da gambla. I look at sitcheeyayshuns and make da bet dat has the highest probability of paying off in a big way. Just dat simple!  Now if ya wanna bet me which is da quickest way to a 30% gain based on tonight's closing price for HSR....buy it or chort it....I'll be mo den happy ta take yer muny....again! Oh yeah, I'll tell ya straight up dat I'll take da chort side cause da chances are better than good that you wouldn't know what I'za bees thinkin.  Ya kin axe yer little chitlin what he thinks when you be changin his diaper tanight. I'm wreckin he'll go wit da Reaper on this'n. And remember....if ya up da bet to $100K ya git that kewel t-shirt after i'm dunn whoopin ya agin.  |
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| vetelmo |
| Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Grimreaper wrote: | | vetelmo wrote: | | So you wanna bet that the stock drops $8 tomorrow? That what it would have to do, to meet your EXPERT analysis. I'll bet it doesn't, lol. 20k e$'s? |
Yo! I doan continuosly kick yerass cause I make stoopid bets....now do I? Just call me da gambla. I look at sitcheeyayshuns and make da bet dat has the highest probability of paying off in a big way. Just dat simple! Now if ya wanna bet me which is da quickest way to a 30% gain based on tonight's closing price for HSR....buy it or chort it....I'll be mo den happy ta take yer muny....again! Oh yeah, I'll tell ya straight up dat I'll take da chort side cause da chances are better than good that you wouldn't know what I'za bees thinkin. Ya kin axe yer little chitlin what he thinks when you be changin his diaper tanight. I'm wreckin he'll go wit da Reaper on this'n. And remember....if ya up da bet to $100K ya git that kewel t-shirt after i'm dunn whoopin ya agin. |
All talk and no play. If you SOOOOOO confident HSR is going to close the month of June with a 30% loss, then you should put you fake money where your fake mouth is, lol!! |
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| vetelmo |
| Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Grimreaper"] chances are better than good that you wouldn't know what I'za bees thinkin. [quote]
Ummmm nobody knows becuase you talk outts your butthole, lol. Get something right for once and maybe peeps can tell what your saying, lol! |
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| vetelmo |
| Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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| OH and another thing, take a look at these this chart, all thru this time, you have basically said oil was going to crash and the dollar per barrel was gonna drop to the $2.00 range, which i personally would have loved to happen since I live in one of the highest paying states. But alas, your ANALysis was and as is always, WRONG!! Look HERE All the energy stocks you call pigs, moving much like the market, not crashing like you have always maintained. What kind of fool says gas is going to be in the $2.00 range in the middle of summer?? I know, it's GrimCrammer, lmao! Your outlandish predictions are coming full circle to prove your own self WRONG yet again. |
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| Grimreaper |
| Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:18 am Post subject: |
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| vetelmo wrote: | | OH and another thing, take a look at these this chart, all thru this time, you have basically said oil was going to crash and the dollar per barrel was gonna drop to the $2.00 range, which i personally would have loved to happen since I live in one of the highest paying states. But alas, your ANALysis was and as is always, WRONG!! Look HERE All the energy stocks you call pigs, moving much like the market, not crashing like you have always maintained. What kind of fool says gas is going to be in the $2.00 range in the middle of summer?? I know, it's GrimCrammer, lmao! Your outlandish predictions are coming full circle to prove your own self WRONG yet again. |
I didn't say oil was going to $2 by the middle of da summer. I said gas at da pump was going to $2 befo the end of the summer. What pawt o'da country do you live in where summer be over.....or do you live in da land "down under".....like yer stock port? No wait a minute.....you don't actually trade stocks in real $$$ because you are afraid your results will be equal to yer timely anal-ysis, right?  Once again, you are anxious to see a crash...this time in the energy pigs. Question? If your wishes come true and everything crashes, what are you gonna do when 155 trades a munth on da trade SIM nets you -25%?!! Oh yeah, you worked awfully hard to get posi fo da munth. Don't give it all back on da last day o'tradin. And get yer little chitlin sumthin nice in return for all da sound investment advice he gave ya that rescued yer sorry butt. |
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| Grimreaper |
| Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:24 am Post subject: |
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| Just a little mo evidunce for the coming collapse in the inflation/commodity plays.....me extremely reliable HUI/POG ratio. The last time I was calling for a collapse o'da goldies....just befo the 30%+ across da bored tumble....the ratio stood at 58% as Jim Cramer called for $800 gold. Here we are at lower lows in both the HUI index and the POG as measured by the GLD tracking stock. Based on the closing prices for each da ratio now stands at 328/595 or 55%. Since this move up generated extremely overbought conditions at lower highs don't be sooprised to see lower lows on both the HUI and GLD on da next wave down. That'd be called a downtrend BTW. |
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| Grimreaper |
| Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:12 am Post subject: |
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| I don't personally follow sentiment indicators like % of anal-ysts that are bullish on a particular sector....but I wonder what the % of anal-lysts that are bullish on the energy sector is. It's gotta be at least 80% right now I'm wreckin. Just as Dubya's popularity fell over time....so will the popularity of the energy pigs. Easily the most grossly overpriced sector in da mawkets by a loooooong shot. |
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| Grimreaper |
| Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:26 am Post subject: |
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| CNBC now has ole T-bone Pickens on as the 5th anal-yst today touting da long term benefits of being extremely long in da oil patch. Of course ole T-bone is already extremely long himself so it behooves him to pump up da volume. The funny part is that in Dec as crude was breaking below $60 T-bone said it was on its way to $50! Melissa Frances just axed him about that call and he said he didn't remember saying that so CNBC played the clip for him. Too freakin funny! |
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| jwelch999 |
| Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:58 pm Post subject: Oil Stock Thoughts |
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Tom,
Many analysts are talking about lower oil prices in the future, but in my opinion the fundamentals of the oil market don't support the reduction. The key is whether the global economy will slow... I think China and India will continue their growth... The US will slow, but a large reduction in demand is not in the works...
The other factor is the political environment... Worldwide governments are trying to secure energy supplies for long periods of time which signals to me that they don't believe it to be imminent.
Fair value of the big oil stocks is not that far away based on historical standards... Depends on whether you believe the world has changed...
my 2 cents... |
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| Grimreaper |
| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:57 am Post subject: Re: Oil Stock Thoughts |
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Huh? For every anal-yst that is saying oil goes lower I'll show you 7 that say it is going higher! I'm not being facetious either. I actually did a "day count" on Wed as CNBC is now parading anal-yst after anal-yst on now that crude hit a new multi year high. On Wed there were 7 anal-ysts that said oil goes higher....1 that said lower. And the 1 said he would change his mind if some news came out of da middle east! And that's not counting Cramer, his Mad Monkey, or da Fast Money flunkies either! BTW, just wanted everyone to notice that as crude hit a new multi year high, none of these stocks did, XOM, VLO, HAL, COP, etc., etc., etc.. Just anudder case o'da commodity leading da stocks. So far da stocks ainna payin attention. But hang in there, they probably will. Just axe jist about any anal-yst! One mo thang, if you are a Republican and gas at da pump is selling for anywhere above $3 come the end o'da summer....you're in trouble!  |
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| jwelch999 |
| Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 2:53 am Post subject: |
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Grim,
Good perspectives... I see that gas prices at the pump seem to be bothering you as much as most other Americans that have no clue what the stuff sells for in other places... Call the energy industry the pigs if you like, but the banks take more money out of your pocket everyday... As for values you very well could be right.... If prices fall (oil or nat gas) then many are overvalued... I would still bet that by end of summer the oil patch has better returns then the techy Nasdaq... Could be ignorance on my part, but if I knew the real answers I wouldn't be posting on this site, but sitting in my luxury beach house on an island somewhere...
J |
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| domgen |
| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:05 am Post subject: |
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Well for what it's worth gas where I am at is selling for $1.118 pe liter. This would equate to almost $2.80 a gallon. Further south the Gas is around $2.60 a gallon. This coming from a country that is exporting oil and the Government and oil companies are flush with cash. Gas has not moved in price where I am at for the last 2 months.
Guess we'll see what happens in world events over the next little while! |
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| vetelmo |
| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:23 am Post subject: |
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Wel gas went up here around $0.16 in the past few days. $3.19 at the cheap places.  |
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| Benjamin |
| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:55 am Post subject: |
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It's been insane recently. In Chicago we're looking at $3.30. Even in Indiana the cheap place was $3.08.
We haven't even had any hurricanes yet. |
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