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Im Not Warren Buffett
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:43 am Post subject: Huge Portfolio Reply with quote

CFO
CFO

Joined: 26 Nov 2005

Posts: 3481
This Month: 8
Location: Boston
10566.92 e$

Net worth: 6,291,688.02
Portfolio Value: 32,916.10
Monthly Return:
5.41%
Trades this month: 0
Churn Rate: 0.00%

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I'm already running into problems managing my mammoth portfolio, and we aren't even a full day into the month. Do I buy a bunch of companies and limit how much each can help my return, or go big into a couple?

I have about e$150,000 invested and I think that is the largest amount here... is there anyone else with alot who can give me any ideas/advice?
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geb9696
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:27 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Investing VP
Investing VP

Joined: 10 Nov 2005

Posts: 1550
This Month: 0

15053.92 e$

Net worth: 562,999.92
Portfolio Value: 0.00
Monthly Return:
0.00%
Trades this month: 0
Churn Rate: 0.00%

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Now you can understand a few problems that fund managers run into. The one thing you should be thankful for is the fact that your buying has no effect on the actualy market price. I bought 10,000 shares of amot today. It has traded a total of 650 shares so far today. In real life it would have had a huge impact. I have a much smaller portfolio then you do but I am keeping all of my money in a few stocks.
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Vester
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:39 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Investing Sr. Associate
Investing Sr. Associate

Joined: 26 Sep 2005

Posts: 194
This Month: 0
Location: IL
37456.17 e$

Net worth: 89,461.17
Portfolio Value: 0.00
Monthly Return:
0.00%
Trades this month: 0
Churn Rate: 0.00%

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How many stocks can you have, does anyone know?
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AznHisoka
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:39 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Investing Associate
Investing Associate

Joined: 15 Dec 2005

Posts: 19
This Month: 0

6270.14 e$

Net worth: 12,187.38
Portfolio Value: 5,917.24
Monthly Return:
-0.72%
Trades this month: 0
Churn Rate: 0.00%

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Buy one stock of a mid-cap to huge-cap company that is fairly liquid. Hit da Homerun!
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Vester
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:43 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Investing Sr. Associate
Investing Sr. Associate

Joined: 26 Sep 2005

Posts: 194
This Month: 0
Location: IL
37456.17 e$

Net worth: 89,461.17
Portfolio Value: 0.00
Monthly Return:
0.00%
Trades this month: 0
Churn Rate: 0.00%

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I guess you shouldn't have to worry about commissions with that much of an investment. But those of us under 10 k I think it can make a difference.
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Im Not Warren Buffett
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:56 am Post subject: Reply with quote

CFO
CFO

Joined: 26 Nov 2005

Posts: 3481
This Month: 8
Location: Boston
10566.92 e$

Net worth: 6,291,688.02
Portfolio Value: 32,916.10
Monthly Return:
5.41%
Trades this month: 0
Churn Rate: 0.00%

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I have a total of 16 positions in 13 different stocks. Almost all of them are up today, it seems like everything has really started to run up after 1 p.m.

Maybe its the market. Maybe its just that I'm that good. Razz
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Benjamin
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:00 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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Joined: 30 Jan 2005

Posts: 2739
This Month: 0
Location: Chicago
256380.50 e$

Net worth: 256,395.50
Portfolio Value: 0.00
Monthly Return:
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Trades this month: 0
Churn Rate: 0.00%

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Vester wrote:
How many stocks can you have, does anyone know?


Well, in the rules we say 20 stocks. BUT, you can really have as many as you want. Your performance may start to decline at some point though.
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Im Not Warren Buffett
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:04 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

CFO
CFO

Joined: 26 Nov 2005

Posts: 3481
This Month: 8
Location: Boston
10566.92 e$

Net worth: 6,291,688.02
Portfolio Value: 32,916.10
Monthly Return:
5.41%
Trades this month: 0
Churn Rate: 0.00%

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Vester wrote:
I guess you shouldn't have to worry about commissions with that much of an investment. But those of us under 10 k I think it can make a difference.


Yeah, I usually buy in blocks of about e$10,000. My largest position is in RIMM, where I have slightly over e$25,000 spread over 3 buy points, all of which are currently in the black. After that, most of the rest of my money is in chunks about about 10 grand, with a couple of holdings in the e$5,000 range from my days as a one of the little guys. Wink
Of my 13 stock holdings, only 1 went down today (Inco - N), and I don't even have 5 grand in that. Very Happy
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geb9696
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:15 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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Joined: 10 Nov 2005

Posts: 1550
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15053.92 e$

Net worth: 562,999.92
Portfolio Value: 0.00
Monthly Return:
0.00%
Trades this month: 0
Churn Rate: 0.00%

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Have you sold a stock since you have joined?
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Im Not Warren Buffett
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:28 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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Posts: 3481
This Month: 8
Location: Boston
10566.92 e$

Net worth: 6,291,688.02
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Monthly Return:
5.41%
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Churn Rate: 0.00%

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Yeah, back in my younger, more reckless days I did some flipping, and I take full responsible for my actions and will fully accept the repercussions.

I sold:
Headwaters (HW) for just under 4% on December 1, it hasn't really moved much since.
Provident Energy Trust (PVX) for 1.5% on December 6, its tanked since then.
Burlington Resources (BR) for 5.5% on December 7, it received a buyout offer shortly after and is now over $86. It was a stupid sell, I got impatient and missed out.
I bought and sold Barrick Gold (ABX) for just over 3% today, I think I am overexposed to precious metal mining and decided to take my profit and diversify off of it.
I bought and sold Lloyds TSB Group (LYG) for just over 2.5% today, again, I am overexposed in certain sectors and financial companies is one of them. I also don't think it has great prospects to run anywhere, although it does have a fat 7.6% dividend that isn't taken into account in the game.
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geb9696
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:31 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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Joined: 10 Nov 2005

Posts: 1550
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15053.92 e$

Net worth: 562,999.92
Portfolio Value: 0.00
Monthly Return:
0.00%
Trades this month: 0
Churn Rate: 0.00%

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Seems like you have done well for yourself. What else are you holding in that massive portfolio of yours?
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Im Not Warren Buffett
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:42 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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Joined: 26 Nov 2005

Posts: 3481
This Month: 8
Location: Boston
10566.92 e$

Net worth: 6,291,688.02
Portfolio Value: 32,916.10
Monthly Return:
5.41%
Trades this month: 0
Churn Rate: 0.00%

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Well you could pay to see, but I really wouldn't know what to do with the money. Right now I am holding:

AAUK - Anglo American, precious metal mining
BIDU - Baidu.com, Chinese search engine
CBI - Chicago Bridge and Iron, specialized natural resources and industrial construction
GPIC - Gaming Partners, casino gaming (2 positions)
GS - Goldman Sachs, financial firm
IIJI - Internet Japan, Japanese internet service provider
JOSB - Jos. Bank, upscale men's retail clothing
N - Inco, metal (nickel) mining, increasing my stake when markets open tomorrow
PJC - Piper Jaffray, financial firm
RIMM - Research in Motion, technology company/maker of Blackberry (3 positions)
TSM - Taiwan Semiconductor, largest independent semiconductor foundry

I see myself selling some of these positions off in the coming weeks and moving more toward large-caps and blue-chips. Suggestions or comments?
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geb9696
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:45 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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15053.92 e$

Net worth: 562,999.92
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Monthly Return:
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Trades this month: 0
Churn Rate: 0.00%

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I also was thinking about moving into the blue chips. Microsoft had a big day today up 2.8%. GE was up around 1% on the day.
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Im Not Warren Buffett
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 7:20 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

CFO
CFO

Joined: 26 Nov 2005

Posts: 3481
This Month: 8
Location: Boston
10566.92 e$

Net worth: 6,291,688.02
Portfolio Value: 32,916.10
Monthly Return:
5.41%
Trades this month: 0
Churn Rate: 0.00%

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I am officially holding my portfolio value at 150,000-155,000 for the month. Any e$ I have above that will be held from here in so I don't dilute my returns. I think I should start paring down the number of companies I hold to a more diversified group of 10 or less.
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poornewb
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:53 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Investing Manager
Investing Manager

Joined: 21 Nov 2005

Posts: 711
This Month: 0
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
192106.35 e$

Net worth: 197,656.35
Portfolio Value: 0.00
Monthly Return:
0.00%
Trades this month: 0
Churn Rate: 0.00%

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I see you have 3 positions in asian internet providers.

I was wondering what your thoughts on sify were? Its a internet portal in india but its owned buy someone here in the states?

With that much money and that many holdings you may need to start thinking like a fund manager?


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